Post by WS Pursuivant Esq on Jan 13, 2017 18:58:10 GMT
I'd appreciate if experienced figure painters would share some secrets of their choice of acrylic paints used for SYW/ 18th C figures (or even oil paints?)
There seems to be a wide range of colours required depending on Nation/Troop type tunics, facings and flags.
Are members sitting in their garrets carefully mixing and matching exact colours late into the evening or do they have a chosen list of Liquitex, W&N or other acrylic paint tubes that give the required colour with a quick squeeze?
Are you secretly using Citadel paints such as Nurgling Green Or Evil Sunz Scarlet instead?
If you look at my Eureka 18mm pics, all my figs are painted using Vallejo acrylics. They have a huge range and all you'll ever need can be found across their several paint systems. For the odd wash of burnt umber or sienna, I use Liquitex. I also have a couple of W&N colors I use for horses - expensive but very fine pigmentation. Even use some Folk Art colours for basing and terrain. For copper, bronze and gold, I still use my pots of 20+ year old Ral Partha. They are still in great condition and I like the finish of the bronze on my cannons especially. I must also confess to using a couple of old Citadel colors. Yes, shameful I know!
My painting skills are like my painting technique - very basic. Over the years I have become a fan of Vallejo and they produce all the colours I need. A reasonable match to the original uniform colour is all I ask for. As for shading or washes - I'm a block painter and never bother with that stuff!
Post by WS Pursuivant Esq on Jan 14, 2017 10:29:51 GMT
Keith and Dave, thanks for your comments. I had not heard of Vallejo paints before and now can see the wide range they offer. It seems they have pre-prepared WWII, Napoleonic and some fantasy and terrain sets but otherwise it will require some eyeballing of their colour charts against national uniforms and unit specifics. Logically this means choose a SYW nation side, research some known unit schemes and match up the required colour pallette plus metallics, undercoat and varnish. I will check over Dave's painted 18mm examples however I respect Keith's view that life is too short for shading especially when there's a big cloud of smoke after the first volley.
I just found this link to illustrate the good work another gamer had prepared to create a useful painting guide although it may only partially relevant for British SYW.I am going to dig for more.
I hear you Keith. I'm a block painter too but can't help a little embellishment. I'm also a woeful strategist, so tend to lose far more than win. I try and make up for this with my painting!
I'm currently on hols so as soon as I get home this week, will share which Vallejo colours I use. I looked at that site re painting 10mm SYW in Nth America. He has put up some Kronoskaf flags and uniform schemes which are great. I don't however agree with some of his Vallejo colour choices. I've tried flat red for Brit uniforms and found it to be very flat. For 15/18mm scale you need a colour that will really pop and stand out. Their Crimson looks better in my view and is closer to the brick red if the day. He also uses Prussian blue for facings and cuffs. I've found the straight blue to be better for my Brits and also the jackets of my Hessians and Brunswickers. Leave Prussian Blue for the Prussians! It's a distinct shade. Flat brown is too dark for muskets so I use Mahogany.
It's all subjective so at the end of the day, it's whatever is most pleasing to ones eye.
Post by williamoftiberia on Jan 15, 2017 19:29:55 GMT
I use various paints, Artisie paint I buy from various places £1 large jar or Miniature Masters £1.20 jar, Vallego, or artist paints from Hobby Craft when on sale. All colours can be blended or mixed, the uniform colours of the 18th century were dependent on where and how they were manufactured so colours would vary.
Post by WS Pursuivant Esq on Jan 15, 2017 20:38:24 GMT
Thanks for the contributions so far. Dave had offered to give a rundown of his favourite course in use. Maybe I'm asking for a paint by numbers approach here as its so long since I painted miniatures and I had an anything goes approach for Ancients.
However to simplify matters I expect I need the following.
Basics Black White Bronze Bright Silver for steel Gunmetal Gold Muskets - mahogany or similar brown.
Tunics British Red - Brick red Prussian Blue Russian Green White tunics Linen white and light grey? Mid Yellow
It's also worth considering the base colour that you prime the figures with- Warlord carry a range of base primers. It can be a big time saver and they do a largeish range which match the colours in the paint range. Incidentally I use Tamiya NATO brown for muskets, as well as leather. Lifecolor paints also have a useful range, but they are no longer easy to source in the UK
Post by WS Pursuivant Esq on Jan 16, 2017 16:17:57 GMT
I've found time to £oogle the subject further and are likely to plump for Liquitex Soft Body and can get some really competitive pricing vs. list starting at £2.95 even for 59ml tubes. I appreciated the above member inputs but always recall the results of a local figure painter who only used Liquitex.
I am still umming and ahhing on which nationality to begin with. I am feeling patriotically disposed towards a Marlburian (British) army but need to read up further on WSS and 7YW to get my bearings.
Care is still required to match up appropriate colours from Kronoskaf colour chart with the Liquitex chart and noting level of opacity on the tube.
I was trying to justify the expense by rationalising that a single 59ml tube of suitable (Brick) Red tunic colour could easily cover 5000+ 15mm figures. Thoughts of a 1:10 scale simulation of major Marlburian battles would not be limited by paint at least. However HoW brings some perspective to wargaming in the Age of Reason regarding practical unit sizes. I can therefore scale down my vaulting ambitions to a more realistic number of figures to purchase.
CassArt have an outstanding deal on Liquitex Soft Body 59ml tubes starting at £2.95 a pop for the normal colours although not all were available. This is a significant discount for this Professional quality acrylic paint.
Liquitex Soft Body Acrylic 59ml. £2.95 Unbleached Titanium Payne's Grey Burnt Sienna Brilliant Yellow Green Brilliant Blue Light Blue Permanent Parchment Iridescent Bright Silver £4.25 Iridescent Bright Gold £4.25
Added a POP10 discount code for a further -10% off then Delivery: £3.95.
I can then rally and charge again to the Cowling and Wilcox website this afternoon to fill the gaps in the line as the higher priced colours were cheaper on this site and only £1.50 postage too. I will need some Gesso for undercoat, Matte Medium for thinning and a semi matte varnish. Lastly a chance to lust over some suitable brush ranges.....
Post by WS Pursuivant Esq on Jan 20, 2017 12:28:50 GMT
A parting shot on this subject. Forum users should be aware that Cass Art are listing a set of 12 tubes of heavy body Liquitex Professional Acrylics for the princely sum of £20.95.....less than 20 guineas!!!!
Now call me old fashioned but that is a bargain in anyone's currency. A gift horse that does not require a trip to the orthodontist.
And.... there's more....the application of an online discount code POP10 provides a 10% discount before postage charge.
Cadmium Yellow Medium Hue Cadmium Red Medium Hue Alizarin Crimson Hue Permanent Medium Magenta Brilliant Purple Ultramarine Blue (Red Shade) Light Blue Permanent Brilliant Yellow Green Raw Sienna Neutral Grey Value 5 Ivory Black Titanium White