Wargaming the SYW in 10mm I get most of my figures from Pendraken. 6pdr and heavier artillery is supplied with limbers. Austrian limbers are modelled with an ammo chest but Prussian limbers with just a chassis. However, Haythornthwaite states (in Osprey's Frederick the Great's Army 3: Specialist Troops) that Frederick introduced limbers with chests in the 1740s. I am still going to use the limbers I have, but I wonder why the sculptor fashioned Prussian limbers without a chest.
It may be just the whim of the creative type or possibly that he or she was asked to produce one with and one without and it is just serendipity they were arbitrarily moulded that way? Sounds like a question for the Pendraken forum for a definitive answer?
Since I posted originally I have had look at the Kronoscaf site. Apparently Frederick introduced limber chests for the battalion guns, but the field guns used the A frame limber without chests but with an accompanying ammo wagon, so the sculptor seems to have read up well on that.
Thanks very much for that link Snowcat. It looks to be very thorough and I will give it a good looking at. The information on limbers confirms what I suspected from the Kronoscaf data.I will not need ammo chest limbers as my battalion guns are integrated into the units.
I am pretty old school in my view. You need limbers to move and they need to stay with the guns if you ever want them to move again (totally separate discussion), and they add to the 'footprint' of the battery. Apart from that they LOOK good, whereas a gun on the move without a limber looks silly. I use a number of generic limbers plus a few specific ones per army and it keeps the cost down. My view only and not saying anything different is good/bad or whatever.
If you look at the bottom of page 9 going on to page 10, the limber is an essential part of the battery as it can receive fire and be involved in combat if contacted, i.e. the target is the gun AND the limber. If players are not using limbers this significantly changes the footprint of an artillery target. This is why the limber should always be touching the artillery base.
My SYW stuff is 15mm. I don't have any limbers abnd am not likely to get any. they are expensive and take up a lot of room on the table. In 10mm I have limbers, since Pendraken includes them with the guns and they don't have such a large footprint. Only problem, my 10mm stuff is Great War mid-east...
Can I ask k if anybody knows the color of the Baverian lumbers?
I had a look on Kronoscaf and although it describes and illustrates the artillery uniform, it does not state the colour of artillery pieces. I do know that during the Franco-Prussian War the Bavarian artillery pieces and accompanying transport were described as silver grey, which I take to be a very light grey colour. Whether this was the case in the SYW I'm afraid I don't know, but it may be of help to know that Prussian and Austrian artillery in the 1860s/70s was still the same colour it had been in the SYW. It perhaps should also be taken into account that the German military in general was quite conservative and slow to change. Anyway, I shall be painting my Bavarian artillery silver grey, if only to differentiate it from the Austrian.
It states blue-grey for pre-1760, and red from 1760. I haven't corroborated that with any other information. The same site states that Russian artillery was apple-green, but my research has mostly found that the color was red or orange-red for the wood.