Post by vondeutschland on Jun 20, 2017 15:58:09 GMT
So there is a thread for AWI but what about FNI? I understand some of the problems are sImola but I think that FNI and the base Rules for How could work since the FNI is an extension of the SYW. Thoughts?
Although I've no detailed informations about Indians, I would use my ratings honoursofwar.com/thread/203/honours-war for the War of Jenkins' Ear and King George's war. Don't know how to reflect Special aspects of warfare in America. I would tread Indians as light infantry occassionaly with charging Bonus (standard for charge and inferior for everything else?).
Es marschierten drei Regimenter wohl über den Rhein...
I think that you would have to take on a completely different mindset for the French & Indian Wars. Unlike the European wars and even most of the American War of Independence, the F&I wars were fought in a wilderness.
Eastern Canada and Northeastern US (Sorry, Thirteen Colonies) was one big forest at the time. With the exception of the settled areas, it was all arboreal. Both Washington and Braddock had to precede their column by clouds of lumberjacks.
Movement was by water almost exclusively, and battles involving European troops were fought wherever you could find an open clearing. The natives, the militias and the ranger-types would have a huge advantage over the formed troops in anything except built-up areas. Casualties would be low for everyone except the regulars, as there were lots of trees to hide behind. Until 1758 regulars were almost useless.
You could probably emulate this reasonably well with HoW, but I'm not sure that you would really get the spirit of it.
Btw, born and raised in Canada, and I have recently ordered my first native troops with a view of emulating the F&I Wars, so I have given it some thought.
I plan on playing the Monongahela with just a few changes to the Simple SYW Rules. French Troops de la Marine, backwoods militia and Indians will be treated as superior for movement in woods. The entire table will be wooded, save for the trail that Braddock's troops have cut behind them. Because of the reduced scale (each unit = 150 troops/warriors or 2 guns) and to represent the high losses among officers at this battle, all leaders will have to be attached to a unit at the end of each movement phase. We will be using our house rules for leader casualties. Indians will be inferior for morale after they have become weakened. Braddock's troops will be burdened with supply wagons which cannot shoot or fight and are road-bound. If routed, weakened or forced to retreat they will count against the break point, which is calculated solely with infantry and artillery units. Not sure if this will be played this month or in December. If the Brits win easily then the scenario needs tweaks.
The Corlears Hook Fencibles (NYC) have 126 15mm Indians. We also have Troops de la Marine, Canadian militia, Indian and settler civilians, British colonial troops, rangers and regulars for both sides. I hope this works easily. And we have 20mm AWI too. Why did I get those in a different scale? It seemed right at the time...
Last Edit: Nov 17, 2018 17:15:43 GMT by vtsaogames
The British regulars sometime after Braddock's defeat learned to respond to the command "take trees", giving them some cover. I figure that in order to advance after that they had to re-form in close order, probably needing an entire turn. Troops out of command would need to be able to advance to do this. Taking trees could be shown by staggering the stands.
Any guesses about when they picked up this ability to take cover? 1758? Earlier?
Last Edit: Nov 17, 2018 17:14:20 GMT by vtsaogames
I get the impression from past readings that the British light infantry units - and later the line battalion light companies - picked it up fairly quickly. For example, the 60th Regiment of Foot (Royal Americans) were recruited mostly in North America, and since it was a "provincial" unit, its officers were not usually hide-bound traditionalists. The light infantry companies did have hide-bound traditionalist officers, but the trend was for light units to be used in a skirmishing role, so they eventually came around.
I seem to recall a reference to Forbes and the instructions he had given to his regular units about being able to use cover. He was a traditionalist himself but I think he was highly motivated to see his expedition succeed. Now that might be an interesting campaign to conduct.